tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3528170608960559102.post7707551800159132031..comments2024-02-28T16:41:30.442-05:00Comments on Restore-DC-Catholicism: Being Aware Of Our Parish PracticesRestore-DC-Catholicismhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17478857915379063106noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3528170608960559102.post-55336591943506139632015-03-09T00:41:27.991-04:002015-03-09T00:41:27.991-04:00While I wholeheartedly agree with the things menti...While I wholeheartedly agree with the things mentioned (please, no orans position or holding hands during the Our Father!) -- we must also be careful not to be too dour at Holy Mass. The graphic posted above implies that we shouldn't smile or be joyful or welcoming in any way because the Mass is a sad, gruesome sacrifice. However, we as Catholics know that the sacrifice is intimately Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3528170608960559102.post-41101203970623428522015-02-26T23:48:27.779-05:002015-02-26T23:48:27.779-05:00Cool your jets, friend. My point is that the exis...Cool your jets, friend. My point is that the existence of this fresco does not justify the orans position of the laity, and you know that. Nice distraction technique, though - to no avail. And why should I believe "it simply died out"?<br />Consolamini, I see you are returning to belligerence toward me. That's not happening on this blog. Until you humbly and unequivocally Restore-DC-Catholicismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17478857915379063106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3528170608960559102.post-68722767660328918992015-02-26T21:56:33.787-05:002015-02-26T21:56:33.787-05:00of course the fresco is authentic do you think th...of course the fresco is authentic do you think the Italian belle arte just make up national treasures??? And there is no record anywhere in the various liturgical books or directives of the first six centuries where "church leaders" "put the kibosh" on the practice. It simply died out in the Latin Rites though it survived in a number of Rites that spring from the East Consolaminihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09278560268489520757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3528170608960559102.post-22743018298130342402015-02-26T18:21:58.321-05:002015-02-26T18:21:58.321-05:00Be that as it very well may, that is no justificat...Be that as it very well may, that is no justification for the continuance of the practice. Assuming that fresco is authentic, it is reasonable to surmise that church leaders at the time understood the potential problem with that practice and accordingly put the kibosh on it.Restore-DC-Catholicismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17478857915379063106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3528170608960559102.post-21503801068050066992015-02-26T12:12:33.881-05:002015-02-26T12:12:33.881-05:00curious thing about the "orans position"...curious thing about the "orans position" the oldest representation of a person praying in the orans position is a second century fresco in the Roman catacombs. The unusual factor of the fresco is that it is a woman praying with her hands lifted up. This means either that the laity so prayed with raised hands in the sub-Apostolic Church or that if the position were limited to the Consolaminihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09278560268489520757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3528170608960559102.post-66063180092700496532015-02-26T08:22:35.568-05:002015-02-26T08:22:35.568-05:00The 'spirit' of Vatican ll has so deformed...The 'spirit' of Vatican ll has so deformed and protestantized our beautiful Liturgy that by now it is not even recognizable. I can so relate to the last part of this mic d up segment when they were talking about how FAST all of these changes came about. Overnight there were no more bells at the Consecration, Communion rails were literally 'ripped out' and we were marching up to TLMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16185788425122984772noreply@blogger.com