We of course were delighted when the pachamama filth was tossed into the Tiber. Some time later, one of the two dunkers came forward - Alexander Tschugguel of Austria. He has since told his story and shared his traditional Catholic faith with many. Recently he was in the news as one who suffered the covid-19 virus and who came out of it.
A few days ago, in an interview with Taylor Marshall, the two men discussed these events. In the course of the conversation, they revealed Marshall's role in the pachamama dunking, as one who financed Tschugguel's air fare back and forth between Rome and Vienna.
Perhaps covid-19 has infected some Catholic brains, but I learned of this largely through some Catholics who took umbrage at Marshall's role in the deed, implying that he was merely playing the publicity hound throughout the matter. They even cast those aspersions on Tschugguel himself, going so far as to say he faked his corona affliction for publicity.
My first reaction to reading the details of the incident was, "so what?" How did that garner such vituperation? I have some questions for these detractors:
- How do they think that Tschugguel flew back and forth between the two cities? Do they think he and his friend just levitated through the air, or maybe bilocated as some mystics throughout the centuries did? News flash! Air fare costs money! Marshall put up his own funds. How dare some impugn Marshall's motives for so doing? If you don't think he deserves some respect for so doing, well, that's on you. However, by what stretch of logic do you villify him for his actions?
- I detect just a slight note of shame underlying the wags and naysayers for their own cowardice and lack of initiative. It's all too easy to say that those who do get off their butts to do something are not acting in good faith, for somehow that makes their own torpidity not look so bad. To be honest, I've been on the receiving end of such nonsense myself.
I'm not inclined to link to the prattlings of these malcontents right now, for I don't want to increase their hit counts. I might have to do that in the future, if this problem persists. I remind such individuals that contumely and calumny are sins.
Meanwhile, I will now post the interview below. The discussion of the pachamama incident begins at the 1:06:00 mark. They also remind us of that meeting scheduled for May at the 1:13:40 mark. I do hope that the corona situation causes that planned debacle to at least be postponed, as it has for so many other filthy events in Baltimore (see here and here).
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There is no assumption of goodwill in the Catholic blog world, any longer. We disintegrated. If I had to surmise why, I would imagine it is the 7 year overflow of frustration, and the inability of sincere Catholics to do anything remotely helpful during this time when we are forced to observe the dismantling of Christendom by the rats who are supposed to defend it. The patient waiting turned to a need to do something which turned to understanding we could do little to nothing and now, venom which is cast out laterally. It couldn't find a target upwards, there is nothing we the laity can do to effect any change at all, except pray and refuse to financially support Francischurch. Many are dying to do something, which is why we so appreciated the Rome poster effort and the Pachamama dunking. I would rather not have known who did it, it would have remained a nice mystery, but I am only appreciative for Alexander Tschuggel's actions, as well as Taylor Marshall's. Somebody did it, and it needed to be done! I know I am not alone that observing that group of Pachamama's as they were exited from the church and escorted to their launch was a beautiful moment that made us laugh and rejoice and say "Yeah! Take that!" and cheer. Christ was defended, and while two men did it an entire population of Catholics were with them in spirit. Maybe people are mad they didn't think of it themselves, or pony up the money. We're just thankful they did it. So to Taylor Marshall and Alexander Tschuggel, God bless you and many thanks!
ReplyDeleteIf you like being duped, more power to you! This was originally presented as a spontaneous act.....it was a completely contrived publicity stunt with Marshall having an "exclusive interview" shortly thereafter, with Marshall going so far as to pretend he wasn't sure how to say Tschugguel's name.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bSMK0ClDMg&feature=youtu.be
You say "how anyone dare impugn Marshall's motives" and then turn around and accuse skeptics of cowardice. The calumny reminder is also a nice touch to shutdown legitimate opinion.
In the not so distant past, Marshall also claimed to have a revelation from God, posted it on Youtube (filmed from his car no less)and then yanked it when it became embarrassing. Sounds real legit.
Just for the record, do you have ties to Opus Dei?
If it really makes that much difference, I have no Opus Dei ties. As a friend of mine said in an unrelated discussion, "I like what I do versus what others don't do". You have no proof that the motive was publicity.
DeleteDeceit would be a very good indication.
DeletePretending he didn't know how to pronounce his name? I've heard his name a number of times and even met him once. I'm not sure I would get the pronunciation right. Therefore I think to brand Marshall's pronunciation uncertainty as "pretending" is a bit brash on your part, so yes, I will repeat my calumny reminder.
DeleteAnd the histrionics to break the news in the middle of the night? Calling it a PR stunt is actually more charitable than accusing him of deceit.
DeleteWhat truth did they deny you to which you had a right?
DeleteMy beef with the good doctor is not with his need to announce to all his monetary involvement with getting the pacha's out of there; he's got his rewards from his adoring fans, it's with the deceit in announcing it and a few other things.
ReplyDeleteFirst and foremost is his public tweet last February (?) accusing those who believe Benedict is Pope of committing the grave sin of schism for attending Mass where Francis is commemorated. He's wrong and he's never walked it back nor apologized. This needs to be done publicly.
Second is his refusal to answer publicly if assisting at a private Mass offered by Fr. Nix last August was the grave sin of schism on his (Marshall's) part. Fr. Nix commemorates Pope Benedict. Marshall made it public via social media that he assisted at that Mass. I have asked him publicly to answer. I know that he has seen at least one of my requests because I asked him via "live chat" during one of his podcasts and now am blocked from live chat.
Dr. Marshall needs to address this publicly. Either double down and defend his insipid accusations, and at the same time defend his act of schism at Fr. Nix's Mass....or apologize.
But these have nothing to do with the pachamama dunking.
DeleteSince when is the character of a man in one instance not relevant to his character in another?
DeleteDebbie: In the Pachamama affair Francis committed idolatry, violating the first commandment. Have you publicly denounced Francis? If not, why not?
ReplyDeleteDoes publicaly stating I believe Bergoglio is an anti-pope and that Benedict is and has been all along the true Pope count as denouncement?
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