Thanks to Rorate Caeli, I was directed to another interview given by Pope Francis. This is more recent than that other "well-known" interview of his. His Holiness interviewed with Eugenio Scalfari of La Repubblica. The context makes clear that Scalfari is a fallen-away Catholic. I link now to the interview as it was rendered in English.
While I realize that there might have been some loss of meaning in the translation process, there couldn't have been that much. That said, the proceeds of this interview are most troubling. Many of His Holiness' replies seem to fly in the face of Sacred Tradition and Scripture. Of course Our Lord Himself guarantees that the Pope cannot teach error, presuming that he is speaking solemnly "ex cathedra". By no stretch of the imagination is this "ex cathedra". But there's no way to put a positive spin, a "happy face" if you will, on this.
The article starts off with a direct quote from His Holiness. I cannot determine what preceded this quote or what followed afterwards, but it is troubling. Here it is. "The most serious of the evils that afflict the world these days are youth unemployment and the loneliness of the old. The old need care and companionship; the young need work and hope but have neither one nor the other, and the problem is they don't even look for them any more. They have been crushed by the present. You tell me: can you live crushed under the weight of the present? Without a memory of the past and without the desire to look ahead to the future by building something, a future, a family? Can you go on like this? This, to me, is the most urgent problem that the Church is facing."
Here it is again, with my comments in red.
"The most serious of the evils that afflict the world these days are youth unemployment and the loneliness of the old. What of the rampant immorality, particular sexual immorality, that is reducing so many young lives to the level of animals? What of euthanasia that threatens so many ill and elderly? What of the lack of spiritual preparedness, through Sacraments, for death? The old need care and companionship; the young need work and hope but have neither one nor the other, and the problem is they don't even look for them any more. Aren't these ills, real though they are, not symptoms of the larger problem, that of not knowing Jesus Christ and the life He offers through the Church? They have been crushed by the present. You tell me: can you live crushed under the weight of the present? Without a memory of the past such as the history of Christianity and the deposit of the Faith and without the desire to look ahead to the future the ultimate future, of course, being heaven and eternity with Jesus and the Church Triumphant by building something, a future, a family? Can you go on like this? This, to me, is the most urgent problem that the Church is facing." Does this not illustrate the absolute need for proselytizing that is, unambiguous preaching of Catholicism? More on that later.
When Scalfalr jokes that his friends fear the Pope will convert him, the Holy Father replied, "Proselytism is solemn nonsense. It makes no sense. We need to get to know each other, listen to each other and improve our knowledge of the world around us. Sometimes after a meeting I want to arrange another one because new ideas are born and I discover new needs. This is important: to get to know people, listen, expand the circle of ideas." I understand that St Vincent Ferrer, a great Dominican preacher, marched into a synagogue one day, preached and converted 10,000 Jews. Somehow I doubt that he was all that concerned with "expanding the circle of ideas", if indeed he had the time to do so.
Here's a little "back-and-forth" by Scalfari and His Holiness:
(ES) "Your Holiness, is there is a single vision of the Good? And who decides what it is?"
(PF)"Each of us has a vision of good and of evil. We have to encourage people to move towards what they think is Good."
(ES)"Your Holiness, you wrote that in your letter to me. The conscience is autonomous, you said, and everyone must obey his conscience. I think that's one of the most courageous steps taken by a Pope."
(PF)"And I repeat it here. Everyone has his own idea of good and evil and must choose to follow the good and fight evil as he conceives them. That would be enough to make the world a better place."
Wow! Ladies and gentlemen, everyone has a duty to form and inform their conscience according to God's objective, written law as promulgated through the Teaching Magisterium. Otherwise, disaster will be the order of the day. Let's look at a clear example. Adolf Hitler had a very defined "vision of good and evil". Does anyone doubt that he "moved towards what he thought was good"? Did Hitler, in following good as he conceived it, "make the world a better place"? Hitler's "vision of good and evil" was diametrically opposed to any real, objective definition of the same. Hitler really did think that "the good" meant that he had to exterminate Jews and pursue a "master race". Of course we can say that today a lot of "pro-choice" folks follow warped ideas of good and evil. The fact that they are settling for their own ideas as opposed to the Church's ideals has led to an ongoing murderous bloodbath. "Good and evil" are NOT to be subjectively defined.
I don't have time to go through this mess line by line. Let us pray for our Holy Father and the Church that he now shepherds.
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